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jacka123 Champion Author Maryland Posts:11,948 Points:1,279,965 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 1:25:31 PM Ignore jacka123 Report Abuse Anyone see the new Bloomberg Poll, showing Obama up by 13 points nationally? What a joke, all other polls have Obama and Romney not more than 3 points apart either way. The article I read, then goes on to say, that the people they polled where 1/3 non-white, (black or hispanic). What kind of poll is that, lol ?? Why didn't they just poll all the people in prison and the homeless people, what is this world coming to?

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Anyone see the new Bloomberg Poll, showing Obama up by 13 points nationally?
What a joke, all other polls have Obama and Romney not more than 3 points apart either way.

The article I read, then goes on to say, that the people they polled where 1/3 non-white, (black or hispanic). What kind of poll is that, lol ?? Why didn't they just poll all the people in prison and the homeless people, what is this world coming to?

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PopcornPirate Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,920 Points:1,173,370 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2012 5:54:02 AM Ignore PopcornPirate Report Abuse Poll #s has a major effect depending on the areas the poll was taken. Time of day taken. How the questions were worded?
smooth7984 Champion Author Columbus Posts:8,666 Points:1,400,150 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2012 4:11:36 AM Ignore smooth7984 Report Abuse I agree that the poll was off but you have to look at the sample and the people running the poll (I am speaking in general). Everyone who follows polls know that there is a difference between registered voters, likely voters, and just anyone on the street. No to mention that most polls have a large amount of bias. IMHO stick with Gallup and Rasmussen and if you want to look at trends then you can reference RCP but don't put a lot of stock in RCP because it still uses old data and outliers.
Bell30012 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,929 Points:616,785 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2012 2:53:26 AM Ignore Bell30012 Report Abuse The polls aren't dishonest. The people really answer the questions that way. Depending on the pool of those to be questioned and the way the questions are phrased you can get whatever result that you want.
worryfree Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:23,872 Points:1,870,750 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 1:13:33 PM Ignore worryfree Report Abuse duh
mudtoe Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:9,526 Points:1,291,290 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 12:45:39 PM Ignore mudtoe Report Abuse (duplicate, stupid iPad) [Edited by: mudtoe at 6/30/2012 3:47:25 PM EST]
mudtoe Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:9,526 Points:1,291,290 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 12:45:36 PM Ignore mudtoe Report Abuse Besides some of them being scams, there are others whose purpose is to influence public opinion rather than to measure it, under the theory that if they say their side is winning it will help demoralize and suppress the vote of the other side. mudtoe
KatmanDo Champion Author Detroit Posts:12,813 Points:2,615,960 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jun 29, 2012 8:09:09 PM Ignore KatmanDo Report Abuse "Some polls are dishonest" That's for sure! A number of weeks ago we received several robo calls asking whoever answered the phone to participate in a simple three-question poll about politics. After answering, the recording informed me that I'd just won a three-day Caribbean cruise for two, then instructed me to hold on the line in order to give my personal information to a live employee. Instead, I hung up. Dishonest indeed.
jacka123 Champion Author Maryland Posts:11,948 Points:1,279,965 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jun 24, 2012 9:32:59 AM Ignore jacka123 Report Abuse NickHammer, you are probably corect. I wasn't thinking clearly, 1/3 non-white probably is about correct, but still, 13% can't be even close to realistic, since ALL other polls are within 3 points for either candidate. Right now, Rasmussen (the most accurate pollster over the last 30 years), has Romeny up nationally by 5 points, today June 24. I doubt he was down by 13 only a few days ago. Bloomberg's poll somehow, was WAY OFF.
jacka123 Champion Author Maryland Posts:11,948 Points:1,279,965 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jun 24, 2012 9:28:38 AM Ignore jacka123 Report Abuse If you go back and look at which pollster was the most accurate for the last 30 years for presidential polls, it was Rasmussen. Any yes, I know it is a Republican based pollster, but accuracy is accuracy, and it has been the big winner for a long time now. And today, Romney is up by 5 points nationally. And yes, I know state by state is what counts the most, but if Romney is really up by 5 points, that probably means a lot of the states that were close like Ohio, Florida, Michigan, and Iowa, will probably be won by Romney. If he wins all 4 of those, he will be our next president.
owt Champion Author Tennessee Posts:10,292 Points:1,591,570 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jun 22, 2012 1:36:05 PM Ignore owt Report Abuse I heard that one also, so I took my own poll........100% against Comrade HObama in this poll. Just as accurate as Doombergs poll.
NickHammer Champion Author Maryland Posts:16,193 Points:2,582,910 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jun 21, 2012 9:05:31 PM Ignore NickHammer Report Abuse >>The article I read, then goes on to say, that the people they polled where 1/3 non-white, (black or hispanic). What kind of poll is that, lol ?? Why didn't they just poll all the people in prison and the homeless people, what is this world coming to?<< I'm not sure what kind of right-wing blather you read, but the actual poll is here. What you call "1/3 non-white" are not all "black or hispanic" - they are 12% black, 11% hispanic, 4% Asian, 2% other, and 4% refused/not sure. In fact, the 67% white in the poll is actually higher than the 63.7% non-Hispanic White in the general population. But based on your last sentence, I seriously doubt you're at all interested in facts.
jdhelm Champion Author Iowa Posts:11,886 Points:1,200,840 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Jun 21, 2012 2:36:38 PM Ignore jdhelm Report Abuse . . . i heard that, even the north pole was off . . .
sgm4law Champion Author Maryland Posts:18,839 Points:2,380,580 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jun 21, 2012 2:32:44 PM Ignore sgm4law Report Abuse <<the people they polled where 1/3 non-white, (black or hispanic). What kind of poll is that, lol ?? Why didn't they just poll all the people in prison and the homeless people, what is this world coming to?>> But what proportion of the population of this country is "non-white (black or hispanic)"? Also, are you saying that polling "non-white (black or hispanic)" people is the same as polling "people in prison and the homeless people"? Interesting!
citygasman Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:15,060 Points:48,980 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 3:31:05 PM Ignore citygasman Report Abuse Long way untilelection. A lot can happen by then. For the sake of our country Obama has to be voted out. The guy is a walking disaster.
Michiganian Champion Author Michigan Posts:5,738 Points:832,405 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 3:26:50 PM Ignore Michiganian Report Abuse What counts are the state by state polls because its the Electoral Votes which count.